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If you are curious about old cabins around Lake Martin (some maybe from the 1950s as advertised above) you are not alone. Here’s a question one of my buyers emailed me the other day:
Q: We have been renting houses on Lake Martin for years. This past weekend we took a long boat ride looking around. We saw several old cabins that looked unused. Just curious as to if these ever go up for sale?
A: Thanks for the email. That’s a great question. I see old cabins around Lake Martin all the time, too. Most (99%) of the time there is a reason for it. Like, maybe it’s an old family cabin and they can’t decide what to do about it. I can’t blame them, because it is hard to give up on generations of memories!
Or maybe the person has decided to hold on to it in order to get more when they sell in the future, but doesn’t want to fix it up. I can’t blame homeowners like this, either. Historically, Lake Martin (like most waterfront real estate markets) has had very high appreciation over the long term.
Or, maybe the owner would sell it but they have a crazy high price in mind (this happens a lot). Honestly, I can’t relate to home owners like this. I know that your home is “one of a kind” – but people will compare to others. When buyers come to Lake Martin, they typically will walk through seven or eight homes per visit. This is after whittling down a list of twenty they found on the web.
My rule of thumb is, if they want to sell it, it would be on the market. These type of cabins get calls, emails, and letters from people all the time (mostly agents) that want to buy it. They are presented with many opportunities, so if you as a buyer contacted them, you will likely be joining a long list of interested parties.
A more likely scenario happens when home owners call me and ask what I think their Lake Martin property is worth. At least those folks are considering selling, but not always. With a second home market like Lake Martin, you’re dealing with buyers that don’t “Have” to buy, and sellers that don’t “Have” to sell. That makes it kind of unique.
Does Lake Martin Area Association of Realtors (LMAAR) have ALL the listings for Lake Martin or are there some listed through realtors that are not on that site?
Several months ago I had a potential client ask me the question – “Where are Lake Martin homes listed for sale?” He told me that he and his wife were constantly looking (more looking than anything) for a home to purchase at Lake Martin. They checked the LMAAR website several times a month to look.
LMAAR has 99.5% of all properties that actually sell on the Lake. If you look on the Montgomery Area Association of Realtors (MAAR) website you’ll see 10 to 20 at any given moment but all of them are also listed on LMAAR. Occasionally there will one on MAAR that is not on LMAAR, thus my < 100% number. All of the agents that are serious and full time about Lake Martin (like me) live and breath the LMAAR MLS.
To help my clients I can set up an account on my LMAAR MLS feed. Click here for the link. It is not public and no one else will see it.
Setting up your account will help you save the properties you have seen and share feedback with your spouse. It can also be set up to auto alert you by email when something pops up in your area and price range. If you aren’t interested in registering, no sweat, but some folks like to be alerted so they don’t miss anything, and properties in some Lake areas are going fast these days.
Zillow doesn’t work here at Lake Martin for selling waterfront real estate. It is terribly inaccurate.
I get reminded of this every now and then when I hold my nose and wade into their site. Today I was looking at a Zillow advertisement for a waterfront property on the Dadeville side of Lake Martin. The Zestimate was crazy wrong. But….. that goes without saying. Aren’t we all used to that by now?
What caught my eye is some of the wacky supplemental info that Zillow tried to give for the home. Dadeville’s zip is 36853, and Zillow thinks that the nearby zip codes of 36023 (East Tallassee) and 36256 (Daviston) are comparable to this property. Huh? Seriously? Here’s the reality- homes that are a half mile away from this one, but also in Dadeville, are NOT comparable, either. That’s because an off water home in Dadeville is not comparable to one that is waterfront on Lake Martin. The lot drives the value on Lake Martin.
Common sense, right? Well, it seems the computer nerds at Zillow haven’t figured out how to program for that.
Also- check out the “nearby” neighborhoods. Hello? Only one of the five of those has any waterfront on Lake Martin. I have never heard of the other four.
Lake Martin Zillow FAQ:
Why is Zillow so wrong here at Lake Martin? Many reasons. Among them is that the counties around Lake Martin do not report sales data to Zillow. Neither does our MLS. The result is that Zillow’s database is bloated with homes and lots, many of which are out of date, inaccurate, have sub-standard media, and are poorly described. This leads to buyer frustration (“What? This home’s listing was cancelled two years ago?”) and seller anger (“What? It says my house has 0 bathrooms!”).
Then why is Zillow so popular nationally? Zillow is not in the real estate business. They are in the “sell ads to real estate agents” business. To be frank, they are good at scaring the poop out of real estate agents like me when they cold call us. The pitch is, “we are so awesome! Don’t you want to be The Featured Agent in your area?” I respond, “My area? You mean Sessions? Or Buttston? or Tohopeka? No thanks. I will keep my money and you keep that title.” Agents that do give money to Zillow soon find out that Zillow takes their money and uses it to advertise to – you guessed it – other agents, pressuring them to outbid the original agent for the (occasionally) coveted Featured Agent for the area.
Will I ever advertise on Zillow? Who knows. I never say never. Maybe one day Zillow will get its act together for Lake Martin real estate. Maybe their SEO will start to beat mine. Maybe they will actually become a useful tool for home sellers and buyers here. When that happens, I will hop right on board. Occasionally I hear of a FSBO that uses the site with some success. Sometimes I will even recommend that FSBOs try Zillow out if they are so inclined, but right now it just doesn’t make sense for me. I am a full time, professional real estate agent with other, much more powerful marketing tools with which to help buyers and sellers here at Lake Martin.
When I helped Pat & Betsy buy their waterfront home on Lake Martin, I set a personal sales record of which I am very proud.
Before you groan and think I am just another real estate agent boasting about my earnings, this record is not about the money. It wasn’t a gajillion dollar sales price and commission (although it was very nice).
No, they set my record as my longest looking buyers. I’ve been working with them to find their perfect home on Lake Martin for a while. Take a second to watch the video and see how long it has been and what the first thing they planned to do after closing. It seems there was a slight disagreement.
The reason I mention this is I find that when helping some Lake Martin home buyers they feel they can’t start talking with me because they aren’t ready to buy tomorrow and don’t want to “waste my time.”
I always tell them 1.) there is no way you are going to set the record for my longest looker, and 2.) that it’s not a “waste of time” and we can look at their pace.
I am not a high pressure real estate sales guy. I understand that finding a lake house can sometimes take a while, especially here at Lake Martin. That being said, there are plenty of people that I help that find their dream home on the first day. But the majority of successful outings happen like – they contact me (through phone, web or the Lake Martin MLS) – we start talking, we prioritize for matches that come on the market in the future. We talk some more and they give me feedback, then come up to see some homes. That way, when we are looking, there’s a good chance we are looking at “maybes.” If they don’t find their one on that trip, we rinse and repeat.
Just so you know, Pat and Betsy weren’t Lake Martin newbies. In fact, they were two of the more experienced “lakey” buyers I’ve ever had the pleasure of helping. They knew exactly where they wanted to be on the lake, knew how they would use the home, and knew when it was right for them and their family to pull the trigger.
It wasn’t a nine year frantic search, instead it was a slow and steadily monitoring, knowing what was right for them.
Are you ready to break their record? I hope someone is! Contact me here or at the number at the top of the page and let’s get started.
2026 will be here before you know it!
The State of Alabama requires a certain amount of education before one can sit for the real estate licensing test. One huge part of the licensing education is a discussion of professional liability. The training includes a seemingly constant refrain that the potential agent should always quote sources and encourage consumers to consult an attorney. When I took those courses, I often wondered; if we are steadily telling people to consult an attorney, why do they need an agent?
The answer is a wise one: Let lawyers practice law, and let agents stick to real estate.
As such, I would encourage the reader to consult an attorney on all of the matters below, as I am just a real estate agent. Not a lawyer.
With that disclosure out of the way, I would like to talk about subjects that sometimes cause confusion when buyers and sellers negotiate a real estate contract. In Alabama, the law says that everything is negotiable. There are no standard terms or standard rules.
I will say that, from market to market, we do find that local customs prevail. I find it interesting that even in the same state there are varying degrees of “normal.” Agents from other areas, such as Montgomery, Auburn, Birmingham or even the beach, show property here at Lake Martin, and sometimes, even present offers. When that happens, there is usually a frank discussion between agents to identify the parts of a contract that might be different in each region. Even when both agents are from the lake, a clear understanding of all the contract terms is paramount. I will attempt to touch on a few parts of the sale that might possibly be confusing.
One important part of a real estate transaction is figuring out when the buyer actually takes possession of the real estate purchased. In the case of a lot purchase, it is really no big deal. Usually, the seller has little or no property on site; therefore, there is nothing to move. But what about a home purchase?
In this situation, buyers and sellers can agree to just about anything. Two possibilities are: 1) buyer takes possession at closing, or 2) buyer takes possession, say, two days after closing. I have seen cases where the seller doesn’t move out, but instead rents back from the buyer for a month.
Admittedly, around Lake Martin, closings like that are pretty rare. That is understandable, as most buyers use the properties as vacation homes and are looking forward to vacating as soon as possible. In many a closing, the buyers drive up to the closing attorney’s office in a U-Haul, loaded to the gills and ready to move and hit the water for some fun.
Sometimes, sellers might want to wait and not give possession until after the actual closing. They might think, why should I move all of my stuff out before I am absolutely sure that I will get my money? I can see their logic, but the same could be said by the buyer. Why should I give them my money when they haven’t even started moving out yet?
The point is this: Be sure to read the contract and negotiate based on your preferences; however, I would guess that 95 % of the time, possession is given at closing here at Lake Martin. Maybe this gets back to the high second home rate in the area. Maybe it is because, many times, furniture is involved, and that cuts down the burden of moving.
Speaking of furniture, that’s another area of the contract that sometimes causes confusion. I get a lot of buyers that ask a common question when walking through homes, “Is the furniture included?”
Again, it pays to be really specific. As a buyer, if you can’t imagine finding a kitchen table more perfect for your family, go ahead and write it in the contract. If you are the seller, and you know that no matter what, there is no way you can part with your MeMaw’s antique rocker, it is wise to specify it as excluded in the contract.
Exclusions can work on the buyer side, too. I have had a few buyers say, “they better be sure to get that junk in the yard out of here,” and we have had to write it in as an exclusion.
One last word on furniture and any other personal property: Consult your lender on the wording here. Some underwriters have major objections to seeing anything, even refrigerators, included in the real estate contract. Other loan underwriters don’t mind, as long as you state that they are adding no value to the real estate purchase. Check before you write it up.
Surveys are another example of possible confusion. I have had agents tell me there is a law in the State of Alabama that says all sellers must provide a survey. That is incorrect. In fact, most brokers’ contracts are written in such a way that you have to check a blank to stipulate who will pay for a survey, buyer or seller. Again, consult an attorney to be sure you understand the contract.
Did you clean up after yourself?
If you are a seller in the home transaction, is there a clause in the contract that addresses the cleanliness of the home? If you are the buyer, is this a high priority? If so, make sure you have some language in the contract that covers it. Also, maybe you had better schedule a walk through before closing, so you can make sure the contract was followed. There are many definitions of “clean,” so in my opinion, it is difficult to address this in writing.
When I am advising sellers on this subject, I ask them to go overboard. I have never seen a buyer complain that a house is too clean. The main point here is that nothing is standard. Sellers are not required to dust the first bunny. Put it in writing.
Those are just a few areas of the real estate sale that might cause potential misunderstandings. To find out more, talk to your real estate agent, and yes, consult an attorney.
Note: I originally published this article in my monthly column in Lake Magazine. I am proud to write about Lake Martin Real Estate for Lake Magazine.
How hard is it to sign a contract to buy waterfront real estate in Lake Martin?
The answer – I try to make it as easy as possible!
These days most Lake Martin buyers are 2 1/2 – 3 hours away. They come to the Lake to real estate shop and enjoy a little mini vacation. On their drive home they spend time talking, texting or calling about lake property.
When ready to make an offer and (hopefully) sign a contract they don’t have to leave the comfort of their home. It is not like the old days: come to the office, sign mimeograph copies of the contract, etc.
One of the ways this process has gotten easier is using DocuSign. DocuSign is electronic signature technology letting you electronically exchange contracts or other signed documents.
An awesome example of how well this works happened earlier this year.
While the husband was moose hunting on the Alaskan pipeline aka The Haul Road he received a call telling him, “You got the house!” He had to hike a little ways to get a better signal to sign his sales contract but hey – he was able to get right back hunting! Watch the video for the full story.
Like a lot of people, I love to check out how Lake Martin home buyers renovate their waterfront homes after the purchase.
I was really excited earlier this summer when I stopped by a lake home in the north Lake Martin area that I had sold a few years ago. The young couple who bought it wanted me to see the results of their remodeling job. They renovated the bedrooms upstairs, and really put a number on the basement!
And wow – the basement (aka lake level) had been transformed! Sometimes the word “basement” makes us think of a dark, damp and dreary space – sort of scary. Nothing scary here!
The previous owners had used the area for storage. While it was easy to see the potential for this large space it would not be an easy project even for the handiest DIYer or professional contractor, yet the buyers performed most of the work themselves. From design to installation of some tricky sheetrock and carpentry, this was almost 100% their remodeling work!
With this renovated lake level area the homeowners have probably doubled the size of their home. They added a finished bedroom in the space and a bright family room with its own door to the lake side deck. The existing bathroom was updated and expanded. The interior stairs were improved and made more user friendly.
The exterior also received some updating. The old single garage door was removed and replaced with two custom wood, barn style faux doors that look amazing and really add to the lake appeal of the home.
Don’t just take my word for it – look at these before and after photos below!
By the way, if you are looking for a contractor or subcontractor to help you with a remodel, renovation, or new construction around Lake Martin, CONTACT ME HERE and I would be glad to make some recommendations.
Q: Thank you for all of the email updates for homes for sale around Lake Martin. I see one I like- but it says “Pending” by the home’s info. What does Pending (Y) mean on your website?
A: For my website, (Lake Martin Voice.com) – I pull all of my information from the Lake Martin MLS. Regardless of what bloated sites like Zillow will try and tell you, the Lake Martin MLS is the most accurate and updated database for waterfront property here at Lake Martin. This is because it is made up of the real estate agents and brokerages here.
One of the fields of data we have is “Status.” When you see the Status = Active, that means that the waterfront lot or home is currently for sale. When you see Status = Pending, it means that the property is under contract. There has been an offer, and that offer was accepted, and the parties are working towards closing.
Typically, the time that a home is ‘pending’ is about five or six weeks to allow for the buyers to do their due diligence, such as the lending process, any inspections, surveys, etc.
Incidentally, once the sale has finalized and closed, the status is changed to “Closed” and it will be removed from the website. This is because, according to our Lake Martin MLS rules, sold properties are not allowed to be on public facing websites. Sold information is only visible to Lake Martin MLS members, so if you would like info on a sold property, please CONTACT ME HERE and I can help you with that.
When ready to buy a Lake Martin home, Randy and Jennifer did their homework. Let the house hunting begin! They researched, looked, and researched some more. They took advantage of a key tool that I give to my buyers – a constantly updated list of every potential dream home – emailed right to their phones.
When their dream home hit the market, they knew they had to move fast. In a seller’s market, speed is critical for the buyer. But you don’t want to rush into anything!
By receiving custom curated search results, and by walking through a few homes, Randy and Jennifer were ready to move with informed confidence when their time came. They got my email alert on Sunday, we saw the home on Monday and we were under contract by Tuesday.
Cheers to Randy and Jennifer on securing their Lake Martin dream home!
Buying a home is exciting and can sometimes be overwhelming but with the right agent you can find your dream home too! As your agent I would love to talk to you about how I can help you find your home on Lake Martin by using this key tool – giving you the latest and most accurate list of homes that fit your ‘must-haves’!
Please call or text me at the number at the top of this page or contact me Here.
Note: I originally published this article in my monthly column in Lake Magazine. I am proud to write about Lake Martin Real Estate for Lake Magazine.
It truly takes a village of people to help buyers purchase a home here at Lake Martin.
Sure, you might be tempted to think that the only people involved are real estate agents and lenders. While they are a great idea, agents and lenders are not necessary. I will say that, according to the National Association of Realtors, 87 percent of buyers used Realtors last year to help them in their purchases. Since I am an agent, this recommendation won’t surprise you, but I do think a great agent more than pays for himself or herself. Choose one wisely.
Your agent should also be able to help you find additional people to assist in your purchase. An effective agent should have the contact information of the below folks ready at a moment’s notice.
A first person you might need is a good general contractor or GC. A GC’s advice can give you the data you need to be confident about your decision to negotiate with the seller and get a written contract. You may need them to walk through the home on which you have selected to make an offer if there are big repair items, but please do not drag the GC around to every single home you view. You want them to actually return your call when it really counts.
One of the first things to do after you have a written contract is to think about the land on which the home sits. Before you even get to the house, it is a good idea to hire a surveyor.
When you consider that most of the value of a waterfront home is in the dirt, it’s a good idea to get data on that dirt. A surveyor can help. Some buyers elect to go pretty light here and only ask the surveyor to “mark the corners.” This means simply finding each point of the property line and putting up some sort of marker.
Another option, albeit more expensive, is to get a complete survey of the property and its improvements. At the end of this operation, you would be handed (or emailed) a survey that shows the home, the dock, the driveway and just about anything else that is on the lot. A drawing like this can be extremely useful for future expansions but also could be helpful in case your neighbors get – shall we say – liberal with the placement of their yard art.
Most buyers are attuned to the fact that a home inspector is a critical part of the process. Make sure the one you hire after you are under contract is certified.
My personal theory on home negotiation is not to use the inspector as a way to nickel and dime the seller into having to repair every little scratch on the home; remember, most of the time the value of a Lake Martin home is in the lot anyway. It’s just my opinion, but even though I like an inspector to point out every blemish, I am just looking for the big things. I am mainly concerned about the expensive systems or potential repairs. I think buyers should approach inspections with the mindset of priority, ranking the repairs according to their preferences.
Contrastingly, some aggressive buyers in our current seller’s market are forgoing a home inspection. The mindset of these buyers is that they want to make their offers more attractive to the sellers, thus beating out any potential competing offers, since the purchase is not subject to an inspection. If you choose that route, be careful, and be sure you understand all the risks.
A septic inspector is also a very important person, and this inspection also should be set up after the contract is signed. A septic inspector is needed because of two factors: 1) most home inspectors will not include the septic system in the scope of the home inspection; and 2) almost every single home on Lake Martin is on a septic system.
Many of the septic tanks were built in a time when there was no building code in effect. In fact, the only time the word ‘code’ came up back then was to describe the Lake’s temperature in January. Septic inspections are not a must for every purchase, but a buyer would be wise to at least consider it.
Next comes a termite inspector, who is usually paid by the seller, but that’s negotiable. This is a totally separate inspection, done by a pest control professional.
Usually a termite inspector issues a Wood Infestation Report, or a WIR. A WIR will tell you if, on the particular day and time inspected, the home had active or previous infestations of termites, powder post beetles and/or wood-decaying fungi.
Many people I talk to think this is a bond that guarantees against the cost of future infestation. It is not the same thing. If you want a termite bond, negotiate for it. A WIR is only a snapshot of that day.
Also, unless the house is brand new, I would expect previous infestation. Most waterfront homes on Lake Martin are older and have battled the humidity of the South. This usually yields some sort of previous infestation. Don’t let this freak you out unless the damage is so great that your home inspector is concerned.
An active infestation, however, is a showstopper. You had better get those nasties out of there before you buy the house.
A dock person is another lake-specific professional that might not translate to your hometown. Every Lake Martin home is different, but this could potentially be an expensive repair or an important part of a planned renovation.
If the home you like has a dock that only needs a few top boards replaced, then it is no problem. Your solution could be a carpenter if the job is that light; however, if the dock is about to fall in, or if illegal foam has been used on the floating dock, you need to get the advice of a contractor that specializes in dock construction. A regular home inspection does not usually cover the dock or seawall; so don’t rely on it here. Get a specialist to review the situation.
Similarly, you might need to get a dock contractor’s advice if you plan a big expansion. What if your planned expansion would run afoul of dock regulations? Is that a deal breaker for you? Then you had better include that in your negotiations with the seller.
Selecting a good attorney is often the last choice made in the purchase process, but that does not mean it is an unimportant one.
First of all, pick someone that is a good explainer. I have been selling real estate on Lake Martin for more than 10 years, and I still learn something new at each closing. When you have questions about something as important and expensive as a home purchase, it helps to have a good teacher on your side instead of a person that just spouts legal jargon.
Another critical point in selecting an attorney is his or her local title search expertise. Just because your cousin Vinny is awesome at health care law in New Jersey doesn’t mean he is good at searching title at Lake Martin. Our lake counties are rural areas (thank the Lord), and the title chain often includes some cornbread and collards stains. The local title agents know the twists and turns of the local courthouses. Pick a good one and trust the one you pick, but get the title insurance anyway because no one is perfect.
I may have left a few villagers out, but hopefully, I have named most of them.